Episode published: Friday 01/03/2025
Michael: Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of Every Day is Groundhog Day (Except for the Days When It's Not), the only podcast devoted to the holiday, Groundhog Day. Hope you enjoyed last week's interview with Dr. Eric Green talking about Groundhog Day and data science and the new AI Groundhog Day prognosticator, Byte Burrower.
This week, we're talking about Buffalo Groundhog Day, a celebration that has been going on since 2014 in Buffalo, New York. Originally revolving around a Groundhog mascot named Buffalo Mack, the ceremony now includes a prediction from a live Groundhog named Buffalo Bert. This celebration takes place the Saturday before Groundhog Day, usually occurring on the final weekend in January. But since Groundhog Day is on a Sunday this year, Buffalo Groundhog Day is going to be February 1st, one day before traditional Groundhog Day. Buffalo Bert is the earliest known live Groundhog prognosticator of the Groundhog Day season. I had the opportunity to talk to a few members of the Buffalo Groundhog Day Inner Circle a few weeks back and learn more about this event. So, without further ado, here's the interview.
Michael: So, I'm here today speaking with members of the Buffalo Groundhog Day Inner Circle, there's two of you here. So, I was wondering if you would each give a quick introduction and your role within the Inner Circle.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Sure. I can start. My name is Chris, nickname is ‘Sleet' Flynn. I am the vice president of social media and marketing for Buffalo Groundhog Day.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: And I am Andrew ‘Climate Change' Kowalewski, the treasurer of Buffalo Groundhog Day.
Michael: Could we start with the history of Buffalo Groundhog Day? I believe it's been going on since either 2013 or 2014.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: It was 2013, right? Yeah, we'll go with 2013.
Michael: So, how did it get started? What was your interest, I guess, in Groundhog Day before that? Looking at the website, I think it said something about maybe you had taken a trip out to Punxsutawney. Is that true?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Yes. So, it all started on a blizzardy Friday night, it was a Friday or Saturday night, at a bar in Buffalo, a couple of us just sitting around, and then the idea of traveling to Punxsutawney came up. So, got in the car, traveled to Punxsutawney in the middle of the night, arrived just in time at 6:00 AM in Punxsutawney on, like, a 10-degree day. It was absolutely freezing. We just hung out there for a little bit, just kind of scoped it out, and then we had this idea while we were there that we could bring an event like this back to Buffalo and make it better. So, I don't want to knock Punxsutawney down or anything, but we want to make it more of like, a good, a fun social event in between New Year's and St. Patrick's Day when there's absolutely nothing going on in the city. Something for people to look forward to in the winter, make it more of, like, a winter festival for the city of Buffalo. So, we came back to Buffalo, started this really tiny event, had what? 25 people the first year.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: I think maybe even a couple dozen, maybe a dozen, 20. And that was in a bar.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: The same bar that we were discussing the trip to Punxsutawney.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: And that was the first year... Our presentation involves a couple different steps. Part of the presentation always used to be someone in a groundhog costume.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: That we rented.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: That we rented, and I was the first person in the costume. So, for that celebration, I believe we were in the back. I came out the back of a Jeep Wrangler with a sign with the weather prediction. And from there, you know, I think everyone had a fun time. Yeah, the legend of Buffalo Mack and then Buffalo Bert, our real groundhog, the offspring of Buffalo Mack was born, really.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: A lot later, like, 2018.
Michael: Okay. So, a few questions there. Did Buffalo Groundhog Day start that same year? Like, you went out to Punxsutawney and then you had a celebration?
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Well, it would have been the following year, right? So, it would have been the trip down to Punxsutawney and then the following Groundhog Day, so I guess it would be, you know, February 2nd of the following year, that's when the first party, we brought it back.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: That's also when we decided we would always have the last Saturday of January, a week before real Groundhog Day, which upsets a lot of people. But that's our purpose is to, kind of, get under people's skin who are really loyalists.
Michael: Sticklers.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Yes. We encounter many sticklers on social media. You have people that are incredibly dedicated and it's their favorite holiday in the entire world and if we're messing with it, changing dates on it and trying to one-up Punxsutawney Phil, and sometimes talking a little smack to Punxsutawney Phil just to ruffle some feathers, you get some people that are very dedicated to the holiday and get highly upset.
Michael: I've seen some of that.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah. I mean, I think most… We haven't seen criticism of people who actually go. I mean, people who go to the party have a great time; there's food and beverages and a groundhog, an actual living groundhog, with a weather prediction. I mean, we do a lot of things and people have a lot of fun with it.
The hate, I think, is what you call trolling [chuckles] on Facebook and other platforms where people usually with misspelled words and all caps and everything else yell about the date that we throw the party, that it's the wrong date. Or they'll say, "Oh, only Punxsutawney Phil, he's the only groundhog who could possibly give a weather prediction out there," which is also bogus. So, most of it is, I would say, people online who sometimes want to push back about having another groundhog give better and more accurate weather predictions than Punxsutawney Phil. And you know, I think some of it aims from Punxsutawney. We had some fun with media down there.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We got the weather man down in Punxsutawney.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, that morning newscast, we were there.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We were on his show a few years ago and he's super nice guy. We were just kind of trading back and forth some, like, fun jabs and everything, but he's super supportive and loves what we do because we donate all our money to animal shelters in the area. So, it's for a good cause.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah. I mean, we're a 501(c)(3) charity. So, I mean, the purpose is to have fun, and I think grow Groundhog Day. But we do a lot, you know, for the local animal shelters and local causes. I mean, I think we've raised, I think at this point over forty or $50,000 since we started doing this back about 10 years ago.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: I think around $70,000 now.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah. I mean, every year is more and more. So, you know, I think we've done a lot of good over the over the years and we've had a lot of fun, too.
Michael; So, that's great. I was going to get to that because I knew that you donated to local charities. So, what kind of charities? It's not always the same one, right? Like, you have a few different ones that you donate to.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We originally were donating to the Buffalo Zoo, but we weren't really getting… We weren't able to give them, like, a big donation check just because we were throwing these parties that were so small that we weren't really raising that much money where it would justify a nice donation for the Buffalo Zoo where they sometimes get, like, a million dollar donations here and there. But we wanted to reach out to different animal shelters that are actually in need of funds and try to get some money their way, even if it's, like, a five-hundred-dollar check here and there or a thousand-dollar check, it definitely helps with the local animal shelters more than something like the Buffalo Zoo.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: And recently we've been giving money to Hawk Creek, which is an animal shelter; they do a lot of work with birds and rehabbing birds in the wild. Hawk Creek is actually the year-round residence of Buffalo Bert, our living, real, breathing groundhog who gives the most accurate weather predictions in the country.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Yeah, it's a wildlife rehabilitation center. So, they're about 25 minutes, half hour outside of Buffalo and they have, like, snow leopards and eagles and just animals all over and they rehabilitate them where they find them in the wild. So, that's Buffalo Bert's home.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yep. And Buffalo Bert actually has an exhibit there. You can go there and there's a sign and you can see Buffalo Bert when they're open, you know, hibernating in the winter, obviously, probably eating some greenery or some carrots or whatever that Buffalo Bert snacks on, you know, during the summer. But you can see them and the kids have seen him. I mean, we've had people come up to me and talk about seeing Buffalo Bert at Hawk Creek. So, it's kind of cool. You can see him all year round.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Yeah, we've done a couple of events there too in the summer just to keep people's minds fresh about our event in the winter. We haven't done one since before COVID, but we would do, like, a summer kind of soiree event at the Hawk Creek Center.
Michael: So, I guess I wanted to ask, has it always been the same Buffalo Bert, officially or unofficially?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Unofficially, yes, it's always been the same Buffalo Bert.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Officially and unofficially. Buffalo Bert, he's a big fan of graham crackers and he gets a little too agitated because what happens is he comes out of a beer barrel during our celebration to give us the prediction about whether there's winter or not, and he whispers in Chris's ear and one year he's a little yippy and he needed some graham cracker to calm him down.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: He almost took my face off, in front of 800 people.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: He almost… He kind of drew blood, it was pretty close. [chuckles]
Michael: Yeah, I know there have been a few incidents with groundhogs and mayors. I think Staten Island Chuck, right?
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, he didn't make a drop like Staten Island, Chuck.
Michael: That's good.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Buffalo Bert has a very nice, cushy life.
Michael: Is it always at the same place or…?
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: This year, we're moving the event to a new place called The Banshee, which is a great indoor-outdoor venue in downtown Buffalo that has an outdoor stage where the presentation is going to take place, full menu, full bar, everything else.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: So, it makes life a lot easier for us just because we don't have to purchase a giant tent and that's all covered, and we don't have to worry about food this year because that's covered in the restaurant. So, it's going to make our lives a lot easier.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, we've grown a lot over the years. I mean, we started from a dozen, 20 people, whatever it was the first couple of years. I mean, before COVID, we were having 800 people in a tent and you'd have to rent a tent and there was food trucks and things like that, and it was a lot of overhead expenses for that kind of thing. But now, I think, you know, I think it's a good partnership to have for this party, and I think it's a well-known establishment in Buffalo and western New York. I think a lot of people know it, it's right in the downtown central district.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We all made kind of a mutual decision this year that we wanted to rebrand Buffalo Groundhog Day just because it's been at Flying Bison for 10 years. They were great with us but we just wanted something kind of fresh and we kind of wanted to go back to our roots of having it in a bar. And I wouldn't say make it smaller again, but we want to have that bar setting and not have it out in a giant tent, in a parking lot where we were having it. So yeah, this year we kind of are looking at it as like a brand new, fresh Groundhog Day.
Michael: Great. So, like, how many people… I assume there's going to be a limited number of tickets. Like, how many people do you think will be able to…?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: The owner of the bar said sell as many— They have two giant floors, and they have a huge outdoor space, so they can definitely accommodate what we were pulling in at the brewery when we were getting our most attendance ever.
Michael: So, you said that was a record.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: I don't think we're going to cap the tickets, I think we're just going to see how many we can sell.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, it's a pretty good setup where, you know, there's going to be outdoor areas and indoor areas on multiple floors, like Chris was saying. So, I think, obviously, buying your tickets early when they go on sale is always a good idea because there's special benefits for that that we give out every year. There's some glassware is traditionally what we've done early for the first people to buy. So, we always encourage people to do it, to buy early, and that way we can plan better for the event itself. But we find people either buy right away or they buy tickets a couple of days leading up to the event. You know, they're sitting there going "Oh, how cold is it outside? Is it going to be a windstorm? Is it going to be a blizzard?"
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: You know, that was an issue for us in the past because we would have this giant tent and, weather pending, there's years where we had like 50 mile per hour winds and the walls on the tent are, like, coming down and the weather was very terrible and made it a lot more difficult for us to run this event. So, having it now in an indoor area, we don't have to worry about those issues.
Michael: Sounds good. So, the donations to charity, you said there was glassware that you sell, there's the tickets, are there other things that people are buying or that goes towards those donations? Are people just making general donations to your organization as well?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We have people that do general donations. We work with a bunch of local businesses and try to get sponsorships throughout the year. So, we try to include them on social media to push their business and in return, they give us a sponsorship that we use toward the event and donations.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: So, this year, our title sponsor is Pasquale Bochiechio, P.C., he's a local attorney in town, who's been a great sponsor in the years past. His sponsorship basically was able to keep us going during the lean times of COVID. Obviously, the bar industry, the social industry, people gathering together, that has changed a lot and is still in the process of getting back to normal. So, he's really made a huge difference, as well as all of our sponsors in keeping the tradition alive and raising money for a good cause, for local animal shelters in western New York. So, without their help, we couldn't do what we're doing. I mean, Buffalo Bert would be released into the wild where he'd be a very sad groundhog. So, thanks to them, this thing keeps on going.
Michael: Could you talk a little bit about the Inner Circle? How many members are there? Do you all have the same positions? Has it, kind of, pretty much been the same since the beginning or does it change? I guess that's a bunch of questions. [chuckles]
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: No, Adam Hernandez is our president, Adam ‘Thunder Snow' Hernandez. Pat Myers is our vice president, ‘Permafrost.' We have Beth Ceckowski, and what's hers?
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Her's is ‘Bomb Cyclone.' I have it in front of me right now. So, we got ‘Bomb Cyclone' and Jarod ‘Cumulonimbus' Miller. So yeah, the Inner Circle has grown a little bit over the years. I mean, it started with, I would say, four people, it's now up to six people. And everyone has their own roles, I mean, with just as officers of the corporation, I suppose, but also just informally as the event itself.
I mean, there's people who always take a lead in doing certain things, you know, coordinating volunteers, we rely on volunteers. Beth is instrumental in that and making sure we have enough volunteers to check people in at the door, and sell merchandise, and to do everything else. And Jarod Miller has done has been a great contact for Haw Creek and other organizations around town. So, everyone has their role, especially during the presentation itself. And we can talk about that about the actual mechanics of that.
There's a whole ceremony that we do every year and each one of us as the Inner Circle has a small part in that ceremony. Chris, he speaks groundhoguese, so the groundhog comes out of the beer barrel and whispers to Chris and that's how we know whether it was going to be six more weeks of winter or an early spring. I keep the official thermometer temperature in time of the prediction. So, we always do that. Jarod Miller spread some knowledge about groundhogs and other marmots around as part of the event, and Adam and Pat do their things as well. So, there's always a ceremony that we try to get the people who come involved and excited about it and involves, you know, obviously getting a lot of participation from them and going back and forth and making sure that everyone's excited about getting seen the groundhog come out and give the prediction.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: So, it's been fun we've had I think kids come every year and they want to look forward to it every year to see the groundhog and there's some other live animals that go to the event as well, you know, owls and other birds and alpacas. So, there's always stuff for kids to do and for adults as well. So, it's more than just the groundhog, I think it's more of an event that is bigger than that.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Yeah. Since like, 2016, 2017 we were pretty much in the top three of major events in Buffalo, winter-themed events or festivals so we're always on the local media. We actually had a spot in the Washington Post a few years ago where they talked about our event. In 2022, we won the Northeastern United States Council winter festivals, Best Winter Festival. So, we had a big award banner drop and confetti for the 2022 event so we're hoping this year that we win the 2024. We didn't win it last year but this year we're going for the title again.
Michael: Let's hope so. So, it sounds like there's a lot of work that goes into this would you say is it, like, a year-round thing that you're planning for or is it just, you know, once you know the fall comes around? I know you said sometimes you would do summer events so...
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: It's definitely helpful to reach out to our sponsorships early, earlier than later just because they need a lot of time to write these checks and then get into their payroll and everything, their tax bra— Whatever they have to do. I mean it is pretty much a year-round thing, but we really focus on the event itself probably starting around September, October through February.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, I think September, October then there's promotional videos we shoot with our sponsors and different themes over the years, we have different themes for videos. So, one year, our pre-Groundhog Day hype videos were a spin-off on ‘90s sitcoms so we were doing, like, the Full House and Step by Step… Was it Full House, Chris?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Family Matters.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Family Matters, that's what it was. So, we're all doing things like that where you were sitting on porch steps out front going snowballs at Buffalo Mack.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: The Laverne & Shirley one a couple of years ago.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yes. Laverne & Shirley because we were able to do that, like, in the brewery with actual machines running, I think, if I recall. It was a lot of fun.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: You can see these videos and we have I would say probably, like, 20 videos. There's doctor's office visits where Buffalo Mack is giving birth to Buffalo Bert; we have Laverne & Shirley intro videos. We pretty much do a different storyline every year and do funny videos that go along with the storyline. People absolutely love the videos. I mean, even if they don't love them, we love them so we're not going to stop doing them.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: [chuckles] It's fun. It's fun.
Michael: I think I saw the one with Buffalo Mack giving birth to Buffalo Bert. I don't know if I remember the sitcom one, so I'll have to go and look for those.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Sitcoms is probably my personal favorite.
Michael: Is there an Urkel character in the Family Matters? An Urkel stand-in?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: No. I would just say Buffalo Mack is probably as close to Urkel as you're going to.
Michael: Gotcha. All right. So, and I guess we should talk about that a little bit too. You mentioned that in the beginning, it was well you, Andrew, in the suit. So, that's Buffalo Mack, right? The groundhog mascot who did the predictions for the first couple of years before you got Buffalo Bert.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: That's correct. So, Buffalo Mack is… Well, you can call… The skeptics out there would say it's just a person in a groundhog suit. To us, it's a real animal. But Buffalo Mack is the mother of Buffalo Bert who's an actual groundhog, who now gives the weather predictions. For years, everyone just assumed that Buffalo Mack was a man until that video at the doctor's office showed that, in fact, Buffalo Mack is a woman and in fact was pregnant with Buffalo Bert. There were some twists and turns in the story long of how everything went down. So, the storyline is always evolving.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We've definitely gone off the rails at times.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, I mean so there was always twists and turns. So, you've got to keep clicking on the videos to see what happens next. So, there's always a new chapter in the story.
Michael: Gotcha. All right, that clears it up. I appreciate that.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: I'm not sure if it clears up anything but it's the way it works.
Michael: So have you considered expanding beyond… Because it's one day, right? Like, it's on that Saturday the Saturday before Groundhog Day. Have you considered expanding like to the whole weekend? Buffalo Groundhog Weekend? Buffalo Groundhog Week?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: So, this year Groundhog Day falls on a Sunday. We always do the Saturday before Groundhog Day, not in February. So, it would always be the last Saturday in January. This year we're going to do it the day before Groundhog Day. So, it'll just be like a Groundhog Day Weekend and I'm sure that's really going to upset a lot of people but we're here for it.
Michael; That's big news. Yeah, I was going to say, I thought it was always in January.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We think it will work with media and having TV spots being on news stations which we usually are every year and, like, radio stations around here promoting it. And so, it'll be better for us to say that we're doing it, like, the Groundhog Day Weekend this year.
Michael: Great. So, you talked about where Buffalo Bert lives. What's the name of that wildlife center?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Hawk Creek Wildlife Reserve.
Michael: You did mention you were on Punxsutawney's weatherman's newscast?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: We were on his show probably about four or five years ago. I think it was the year before COVID.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: I'm forgetting his name but it's their morning show. So, he was the meteorologist, I think he was a meteorologist, that does, like, the late morning show. So, it's basically the show that goes on the hour before it goes to the national Morning Show from, like, New York City or wherever they do these things, Rockefeller Center or whatever. And so, there was some fun we had down there. We've shot several of our videos in Punxsutawney as well.
Chris: Oh yeah, that was another good video. We got to go visit Phil and went to Gobbler's Knob and took some video there and kind of made, like, a parody video.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: We've done some election videos too. I recall there was one we did with, went to Albany, the New York State Capitol where what was Buffalo Mack protesting? There was some kind of crowd…
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Wasn't he protesting summer?
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yes. He was protesting summer because Buffalo Mack hates summer and loves winter.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Yeah, he went to Albany, Buffalo City Hall.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yes. In fact, those videos were shot by a couple members of the Inner Circle who are not on this call. And I recall that there were some very curious and questioning security personnel at various capitals saying, "Why is there a person (allegedly) in a groundhog costume and marching around with a sign on the steps of the Albany Capitol and wherever else?"
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: I'm sure the snipers were ready.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yes. Buffalo Mack was in the crosshairs and lived to tell. So, it worked out pretty well. But yeah, those are great videos. I'm pretty sure most of these things are either on our website, which is buffalogroundhogday.com, or I believe YouTube as well, you can search.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: They're all on YouTube, there's a few on our Instagram, @BuffaloGroundhogDay. Between YouTube and Instagram, they should all be uploaded.
Michael: As far as I can tell, at least the predictions that I found going back to 2018, it looks like Buffalo Bert has always predicted a long winter. Do we expect that trend to continue indefinitely?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: I believe that we will continue to have 100% accuracy of the prediction, which we've had since 2013.
Michael: Gotcha.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: The prediction is always right, and it just happened to be always winter. So, whenever it changes, it'll change, but it'll be right no matter what happens because, you know, our groundhog is 100% accurate and it's the most accurate groundhog in the nation. That's why.
Michael: Has the Punxsutawney Groundhog Club ever acknowledged Buffalo Bert?
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: They have not.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Okay. One of our guys, Jarod Miller, knows a couple of the people down there though, so I'm sure they're aware. Jarod, he's a zoologist who's been on Jay Leno and Conan O'Brien and The Today Show, Rachel Ray. So, he's pretty much like our celebrity Inner Circle member. So, he knows the Inner Circle people down in Punxsutawney. He was good friends with Jack Hanna down at the Columbus Zoo. So, he's kind of like our person, our connection.
Michael: Cool. So, I think that's pretty much everything I had. Is there anything that I missed that you would want to mention or touch upon? Anything that you think listeners to this podcast should know? Have you ever tried to get Bill Murray to come and visit?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Argh! I think he's very difficult to get ahold of. He has, like, a phone number that goes to, I heard it's his agent and he just like randomly shows up at different events and things. But we got a proclamation from a senator a few years ago, like, an official proclamation, to make the last Saturday in January Buffalo Groundhog Day to make it a local holiday, which was pretty cool.
Michael: That is pretty cool. So yeah, anything else?
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: Probably the event info this year, so it'll be February 1st, 2025, at The Banshee at noon.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: Yeah, I mean, this year our goal is to make it as big as possible, you know, just to make we get the word out to a whole new generation, a whole new group of people, you know, and spread the word that we're here and we're going to celebrate winter and the seasons, and Groundhog Day in general. So, we want to make the event accessible for everybody, really. So, we're going to do that. I think making it more affordable this year, we're going to do, I think, a lot of things to promote the event leading up to it.
All of our information is going to be found on our website, which is buffalogroundhogday.com and you can buy tickets right through the website. You can always reach out to us, we have an email address. They can go to the website, communicate with us through email. So, we're here to answer questions. If there's people out there that want to have questions about the event or what to expect, we can do that. And I think we're just getting excited for it. It's Groundhog season, you know, it's not a day. I think it's more of a frame of mind. So, I know I think we're getting ready for it, we're preparing.
Chris 'Sleet' Flynn: New fresh start to Groundhog Day, new logo, new venue.
Andrew 'Climate Change' Kowalewski: It'll be a whole new website when it comes to the logos and everything else. So, we're actually very excited about it. It should be a good event this year.
Michael: Awesome. I appreciate your time and thanks so much for speaking with me. This was great.
Michael: And that's the interview. Thanks to Chris and Andrew for speaking with me. If you want to attend Buffalo Groundhog Day on February 1st, you'll need a ticket. You can get that ticket and learn more about the celebration at buffalogroundhogday.com.
Music for this show was written by the fabulous Breakmaster Cylinder. Show artwork is by Tom Mike Hill. Transcripts are provided by Aveline Malek at TheWordary.com. If you want to learn more about Groundhog Day, visit CountdownToGroundhogDay.com. Any feedback or voice messages can be sent to podcast@countdowntogroundhogday.com. Thanks for listening, talk to you next time!
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Transcribed by Aveline Malek at TheWordary.com